Jim, The sort of forum I am thinking of moving to is one where those who post have at least a basic grasp of what is going on. A forum populated by folk who take the time to inform themselves about the subjects under discussion and who are prepared to stay quiet until they have done so. I am less keen on forums where individuals dribble nonsense all over every thread just because there is an available empty space to do so. I spotted a forum for people who think that the whole planet will be wobbling to Walmart in electric jeeps in the near future. They post stuff about how 'We will work it out'. There will be 9 billion smiley people on the planet enjoying health and a cornucopia of endless economic growth all powered by pretty windmills and solar panels..........and nothing will ever be outside their comfort zone. I would send you the link, you could check it out for me, but I am sure there is no point, I doubt you would be bothered to look at it - as usual.